Radio 702’s Azania Mosaka interviewed world-class rugby referee Jonathan Kaplan about his new book, Winging It, written by Joanne Jowell.

The book details the emotional process Kaplan went through at the age of 47, deciding to use the process of surrogacy to become a dad.

‘I have been on the road, actively pursuing my dreams,’ Kaplan says, ‘for whatever reason, whether it’s me, my choices or just the universe dictating as such, and then I settled down and I decided that it was time to have a family.’

Listen to the interview:

Categories Non-fiction South Africa

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